NFL 2010 Week 13: FOX Late Game
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Dallas @ Indianapolis – Joe Buck, Troy Aikman [Fairbanks AK; HI]
Atlanta @ Tampa Bay – Dick Stockton, Charles Davis, Jim Mora Jr.
St. Louis @ Arizona – Chris Myers, Kurt Warner
Carolina @ Seattle - Chris Rose, Ross Tucker [Anchorage, AK]
Areas in GREY will not receive a game, either due to a blackout or the local team playing at home on CBS.
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UPDATES:
Jacksonville, Roanoke VA, Duluth MN, Fargo ND: DAL-IND to ATL-TB
Knoxville TN, Jackson and Meridian MS, Lake Charles LA: ATL-TB to DAL-IND
Anchorage AK, Billings MT: DAL-IND to CAR-SEA
Springfield IL, Joplin MO: DAL-IND to STL-AZ
Disgusted most of the US has to watch Indi and Dallas and not Atlanta/TB. A much better matchup that should be getting more national coverage. It’s a shame.
To DJP:
You mentioned “With many teams in the NFL a crappy home team game generally gets higher ratings than an alternate good game”.
How is that even possible? Nobody even pays attention to it unless if its the local team or their division foe thats playing
Reply to Mike:
“And just for the record, stations can decide what game they want to show, FOX HQ’s only role is to approve or disapprove”.
Why would the headquarters disapprove what the stations in each state/juncture of that city selects and decides to air?
Wouldnt it be under the best interest for the fans/resident of that juncture of the city/state to voice out what they want to see based on the email/phonecalls/letters that they send out to the station?
arell miller says:
December 3, 2010 at 7:29 pm
“Why is everyone beat up on Tampa recond when Atlanta have only beat one team more better then Tampa”
WHAT??!! How about the Falcons beat Baltimore, Green Bay and New Orleans this season. Bucs have not yet beat a team with a winning record.
@Andrew
Because local fans follow home team through good and bad.
One time I lived in Virginia Beach and it was late in the season (like week 16) and they were airing a Skins team with something like a 4-10 record against another team that was also around that record. There were 3 other gamesd that week with playoff impact they could switch to. I contacted the station and they said they understand the frustration but the ratings even for a crappy redskins was still better locally than airing one of these other good games.
Each rating point in viewers means more money for the local station in ad revenue and in network ad revenue.
The way TV assignment work….
the netwoorks assign the station a recommended game taking into account who is required to show what games and then assigning them games based on:
1. home team.
2. fellow divisin teams games
3. national interest games
they assign the local networks a game but the local networks are free to switch which game they air because they know more on local interest level who is the more popular team or with the local interst of games like former college or hometown players playing as rookies.
For example Lincoln has aired a few Detroit games because of Suh. Oklahoma City has aired quite a few Bradford games for the Rams.
Some stations opt to do some sort of online survey of fans to decide what game will air. shreveport, LA did this when it was choosing to air a Cowboys game or a Saints game earlier this season.
In Tampa fan protests drove the stations to change games. Initially they were scheduled to carry a st louis @tampa bay game and then air a late CBS game. When Tampa didnt sellout they were going to flip to another FOX game. Many Dolphins and Steelers fans protested and wanted them to air the Steelers @ Dolphins game that week. So the stations switch games.
I think the doubleheader network has the choice on which game to air when they cant air both and the hometeam does not sell out. Since CBS had the DH that weekend they chose to carry the early game forcing FOX on the late token game.
The issue with FOX approval has to do with trying to maximize station and network ratings for advertisers. The approval piece is necessary because you could have some station owners rebl to the local audience and air only there pet team. Like say a sation owner in Tucson was orginally born an raised in Chicago so he always carries bears games on his station whenever he can irrelevant of record….and irrelevent of network ratings.
If this owner was in Iowa or Minnesota he could get away with this because the HQ would think there is legitamite regional interest in the game because this is NFC North territory where people follow NFC North teams so airing Chicago doesnt raise red flags at HQ.
@Scoots
I think what he was getting act was the fact Atlanta beat new orleans. Green bay has the same record as Tampa Bay.
Tampa Bay does deserve some respect because of their record.
This week is a big game for Tampa Bay that they need to win. If not they could be a game out of the playoffs at least with 2 teams they would need to pass.
If they beat Atlanta then that game that ends the season tampa bay @ new orleans could be a game that means the winner gets a wildcard/division and the loser goes home.
Why the hell are parts of ND & MN getting the ATL/TB game ? It doesn’t make sense.
@Rabid
It makes perfect sense ….they wanted to take the best game where both teams are over .500
the Atlanta @ Tampa Bay game should be the national late game.
Bottom line if you don’t like it buy the NFL package. These games are scheduled based on last year’s results and for the most part they aren’t going to change it.
Why Are the NFL’s Two Struggling Teams getting most of the Spotlight on National TV and two Strong Playoff Teams in Atlanta And Tampa Bay not being Telivised, a bunch of BS
Ok I’m a little confused, DJP
Lets say for example, the Minnesota Vikings dont sell*out their game on sunday for cbs, would that necessarily be “Blackedout” on the local network channel, where they cant show the hometeam game on tv, and instead flip to another early*game on that network??. if so, wouldnt that hurt the ratings for that network and piss a lot of fans who want to watch the game on tv to show their support for the local*home team regardless whether they sellout the game or not?
@Jaxcomet
Do u not remember the last time the bucs and falcons played? The Bucs were 2 yds away from takin the lead in the final 2 min of that game….4th and 1 from the 2 and they got stopped…so dont be too quick to think that wont be a good game. Im in the indy area so i will be goin to buffalo wild wings to watch it…GO BUCS!!
This is disrespectful to football. FOX would rather show two teams with absolutly NO playoff implacations rather than showing two teams that are actually good this year. FOX is so far up Jerry Jones butt he can’t fart with out them getting a whiff.
Why are the rams not playing everywhere? it is clear that is the game people want to watch. None of this crap about the buccaneers or colts or cowboys or falcons, teams with 0 chance at the super bowl. The nfc west is up for grabs!!!
Oh yeah…game of the year!!! Dallas vs Indy…HUGE intra-league rivals and possibly a SB preview. Do not miss it!!!
@Andrew
If the home team market airs a home game that isnt a sell out then PEOPLE WILL NOT COME OUT AND SEE THE GAME AND NOT BUY TICKETS.
If those local people werer fans then why didnt they come out to see the game?
@Mike
WTF ?????
@MIKE
What the hell are you trying to say?
@DJP and Andrew
Hey, which mike are you talking to, I just wanna make sure its not me because I see theres another mike
@ Andrew from comment from yesterday…
I understand completely what you are saying about the stations should give what the fans want…but take it from a guy who has worked at a CBS station and 2 FOX stations (including currently at one), it doesn’t always happen unless there was a major (and I do mean major) outcry. I believe if a few people call it in/send emails/letters, I think they should ask to switch. There have definitely been days (trust me) when I have been at work and had to watch a horrible game because not enough people sent in requests to switch. It’s a sad reality. At the end of the day…it’s up to that stations GM to send it in, or not. Hopefully this clears my side up. (and this is the mike you are responding to from Dec. 4 @ 4:17)
@Dallas???
Remember the schedule is set up and released in April based on how teams played the previous season and who they feel will be good and who wont.
Dallas was 11-5 last year and the Colts played in the superbowl last year. This is also the only time Peyton is on FOX…the other potential game was on NBC when they hosted the Giants.
This will happen next season…
whom ever is the AFC team in the super bowl win or lose one of their games will be a featured 4:15 game next year as part of the network doubleheader…provided they play a team expected to be good.
for example next season:
Ginats @ Jets will be on NBC
Giants @ Patriots will be a featured doubleheader 4:15 game on FOX
Colts @ Saints will be on NBC or a 4:15 featured game on CBS.
Falcons @ Colts will be on national or a 4:15pm feature on FOX.
If KC wins the division then KC @ green bay or KC @ Chicago will be a featured 4:15 on CBS or national agame.
Similarly Green Bay and Chicago both play @ San Diego so one of the games will be on national TV and the other will be a 4:15 doublheader game on FOX.
Denver @ Chicago will be on national TV (either ESPN of NFLN).
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its funny actually..6 out of the seven games dallas has played on fox they’ve been the primetime game, and joe buck and aikman have done the game. I realize they’re “america’s team”, but i’m sorry i’d rather not watch the cowboys play week after week. So even if they schedule the games based on last year’s record the don’t have to put the same team in the spotlight everytime they’re on fox. Disgraceful.
dear fox, when will you understand that the cowboys suck?
I think one thing that proves how big the Falcons and TB game was today comes with the flex schedule the NFL has. Many of you guys are completely overlooking this. Yes the schedules are set in the early spring with times that the games will be played. However, the NFL has the ability to change time slots for certain games based on the implications of a certain game. The Falcons and Bucs game was originally a 1pm game and was moved to the 415 slot a few weeks back. If that doesnt show Fox that this is a pretty important game, then what does? For the NFL to change a time slot really says something in my opinion. I guess Fox disagrees.
Does it matter? Go to a sports bar and watch all the games.
In Orlando, 1 hour and 25 minutes from Raymond James and a feisty young exciting Bucs team and I see Dallas/Indy..terrible just terrible
Irwin Fletcher,
Tampa Bay was blacked out. Orlando is part of the Bucs blackout area, so FOX 35 couldn’t air that game. So it chose the main national game, as did FOX 13 in Tampa. Looks like Tampa’s entire home slate will more than likely be blacked, so you’ll only see the road games the rest of the season. Most Bucs games have had half-full stands.
Just as bad is the CBS broadcasting. I live in the Milwaukee, WI area and am a MN fan. CBS didn’t have the MN Buffalo game on at noon they had the San Diego Oakland game on at 3pm instead. Hello!!! This is NFC north country who gives a @#$%$ about two west coast teams being on! Even up near Wausau, WI the San Diego Oakland game was on. Even though the game was a sell out per the StarTribune in Minneaplois. Just #@#$# unreal!
@Paul
Remember….Green Bay is the team in Milwaukee. It was on at 1pm.
So the CBs station since they were only going to get 1 game WILL NOT run there only CBS game against the Packers game on FOX. They will lose money they could make.
If they air a late 4pm game they will get better ratings and thus more AD $$$$. $$$ drives decisions.
Strange…the time stamp should be 12:22 ET for Tues 7, 9:22 PT Mon 6th.
@Muley
Yeah, it matters….i guess u dont but some people like to watch the games from the comfort of their own homes and when it makes the most sense to show the better game, why should u have to go to the bar to watch? Just cause FOX doesnt know what theyre doin….I went to the bar this week cause im a bucs fan and it was an important game, but if i had to do that every week i would vent on here and complain to the network too…
What is going on with NFL programming? The Tampa/Atlanta game was one of the best of the year – and certainly the matchup of the week – and half the country had to watch IND – DAL???
That was was one of worst played over time games in NFL hisory. You know it’s a bad game when both offences look out of synch and yet 73 points are scored. It was like watching 2 1 – 10 teams playing.
I’ve been watching the NFL for a long time and I can’t remember them making such a stupid move so late in the season. In the early weeks I could see it, but in week 13? Are they doing this for direct TV and NFL Red zone? Guess they never read the story of the Golden Goose. Considering how the new labor contract is going……
I live in Meansville, GA, which I think is some 55-60 miles away from Atlanta. All I can say for sure is that even if a Falcons home game doesn’t sell out we still see it here in Meansville (it’s between Zebulon and Thomaston for those readers of this post who know something of the state of Georgia). Good thing I like the Falcons ‘cuz we see them all the time at home or on the road. I am glad to have been able to see ATLANTA @ TAMPA BAY instead of Dallas/Indy game. I don’t mind the Cowboys, but they’re not going to make the playoffs -and- I’m definitely sick of the Colts. When I lived in S. Florida I’d swear the team you saw 2nd-most after the Dolphins were the Colts. It’s kind of fun to see some FOX regional games involving the Falcons like when they played at the Browns and the Rams. The Falcons are playing the Panthers this weekend. GO FALCONS.
I will try to keep from being insulted that FOX would rather televise a sorry contest like IND/DAL over my beloved Falcons. All I ask is that you keep Jim Mora off the air and back to the Burger King drive-thru where he belongs. The absolute worst analyst ever.
The FOX early map needs to be updated ASAP — the Giants vs. Vikings game in Minneapolis has been postponed until Monday due to weather conditions.