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CBS/FOX protected games: 2009
10/15/09 at 18:15:09
 
I am not trying to spam.  I just think this should be its own topic, for easy reference later, rather than being buried six pages deep in a discussion.
 
These are confirmed via SiX, and I have done nothing other than copy-paste directly from his post in the other thread.
 
 
CBS  
Week 11: NYJ-NE  
Week 12: None  
Week 13: TEN-IND  
Week 14: SD-DAL  
Week 15: CIN-SD  
Week 16: BAL-PIT  
 
FOX  
Week 11: WSH-DAL  
Week 12: CHI-MIN  
Week 13: DAL-NYG  
Week 14: GB-CHI  
Week 15: GB-PIT  
Week 16: None
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Reply #1 - 10/15/09 at 18:29:45
 
thanks; I don't know if I would have found it. It definitely deserves it's own thread AND to be stickied.
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Reply #2 - 10/15/09 at 18:39:15
 
I'm surprised CBS didn't protect Jets-Colts in week 16. NBC has to be thrilled.  I was also a bit surprised FOX protected a Redskins game but then saw that Eagles-Bears was on SNF.
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Reply #3 - 10/15/09 at 18:43:02
 
Quote from bluengold23 on 10/15/09 at 18:39:15:
I'm surprised CBS didn't protect Jets-Colts in week 16. NBC has to be thrilled.  I was also a bit surprised FOX protected a Redskins game but then saw that Eagles-Bears was on SNF.

 
Yeah, with the Redskins currently sucking and the Cowboys looking mediocre, I wouldn't be surprised if that game is meaningless.  IF that's the case, I fully expect NBC to grab either NY-Indy or Den-Phi (depending on which one has more playoff implications).
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Reply #4 - 10/15/09 at 20:45:03
 
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Week 13: TEN-IND

 
A waste of a protect if you ask me. No way on earth should NBC want anything more to do with the currently 0-5 (soon to be 0-6 or worse) Titans.
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Reply #5 - 10/15/09 at 20:49:35
 
Quote from jdelachjr2002 on 10/15/09 at 20:45:03:
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Week 13: TEN-IND


A waste of a protect if you ask me. No way on earth should NBC want anything more to do with the currently 0-5 (soon to be 0-6 or worse) Titans.

 
What if Indy is undefeated?
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Reply #6 - 10/15/09 at 20:53:36
 
The way the Titans are playing, NBC should not use them for any flex games this year. And of course they aired an Indy rout of Tennessee just four days ago.
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Reply #7 - 10/15/09 at 21:23:23
 
I too question the validity of the Week 16 CBS protection. Not only is Baltimore-Pittsburgh in primetime in Week 12 (making it more unlikely to show up back on NBC four weeks later), but Denver-Philadelphia and NY Jets-Indianapolis are both much better selections.
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Reply #8 - 10/15/09 at 22:54:27
 
According to Wikipedia (the Miami Herald link is broken), "Only three teams may make as many as six prime-time appearances (Sunday night, Monday night, and Thursday night combined)."
 
Any idea who those 3 teams might be?
 
 
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_on_television#Flexible-scheduling
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Reply #9 - 10/15/09 at 23:05:50
 
Quote from kamorro on 10/15/09 at 22:54:27:
According to Wikipedia (the Miami Herald link is broken), "Only three teams may make as many as six prime-time appearances (Sunday night, Monday night, and Thursday night combined)."

Any idea who those 3 teams might be?


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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_on_television#Flexible-scheduling

 
Not sure what you mean.  If your quote is correct then this means that 4 teams can't be on 6 times so if 3 teams are already on 6 times in primetime then a 4th could not be flexed.
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Reply #10 - 10/15/09 at 23:19:01
 
Quote from RickyK on 10/15/09 at 21:23:23:
I too question the validity of the Week 16 CBS protection. Not only is Baltimore-Pittsburgh in primetime in Week 12 (making it more unlikely to show up back on NBC four weeks later), but Denver-Philadelphia and NY Jets-Indianapolis are both much better selections.

 
I disagree with both thoughts there. The first BAL/PIT matchup on NBC should have no effect on a potential second a month later.
 
Also, all three of those matchups have equal potential as blockbusters.
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Reply #11 - 10/15/09 at 23:20:20
 
Quote from pdxsteeler on 10/15/09 at 20:49:35:
Quote from jdelachjr2002 on 10/15/09 at 20:45:03:
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Week 13: TEN-IND


A waste of a protect if you ask me. No way on earth should NBC want anything more to do with the currently 0-5 (soon to be 0-6 or worse) Titans.


What if Indy is undefeated?

 
Even as a Colts fan, I say no way.
 
I think we learned a couple years ago that blowouts are no fun even if one of the teams is chasing some sort of dubious "history."
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Reply #12 - 10/15/09 at 23:27:15
 
Quote from Pokeraddict on 10/15/09 at 23:05:50:
Quote from kamorro on 10/15/09 at 22:54:27:
According to Wikipedia (the Miami Herald link is broken), "Only three teams may make as many as six prime-time appearances (Sunday night, Monday night, and Thursday night combined)."

Any idea who those 3 teams might be?


Link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_on_television#Flexible-scheduling


Not sure what you mean.  If your quote is correct then this means that 4 teams can't be on 6 times so if 3 teams are already on 6 times in primetime then a 4th could not be flexed.

 
According to the link, only THREE teams will be allowed SIX primetime games. I was wondering if those teams aren't determined until each week's Flex game is chosen, starting in Week 11? So if a team get's "Flexed Out", they will drop a Primetime game. Here's the current breakdown, without Flexing:
 
Team      
Indianapolis Colts 5
Chicago Bears 5
Dallas Cowboys 5
New York Giants 5
Pittsburgh Steelers 5
New England Patriots 4
Philadelphia Eagles 4
San Diego Chargers 4
Tennessee Titans 4
Miami Dolphins 4
Arizona Cardinals 3
Baltimore Ravens 3
Minnesota Vikings 3
Carolina Panthers 3
Denver Broncos 3
Green Bay Packers 3
New Orleans Saints 3
Washington Redskins 3
New York Jets 2
Atlanta Falcons 2
Buffalo Bills 2
Cleveland Browns 2
San Francisco 49ers 2
Houston Texans 1
Jacksonville Jaguars 1
Oakland Raiders 1
Cincinnati Bengals 0
Detroit Lions 0
Kansas City Chiefs 0
Seattle Seahawks 0
St. Louis Rams 0
Tampa Bay Buccaneers 0
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Reply #13 - 10/15/09 at 23:31:11
 
Quote from kamorro on 10/15/09 at 23:27:15:
According to the link, only THREE teams will be allowed SIX primetime games. I was wondering if those teams aren't determined until each week's Flex game is chosen, starting in Week 11?

 
Correct. It is not predetermined. It's always a fluid situation. Once three teams are scheduled for a definite sixth primetime game, no other team can be scheduled for a sixth primetime game.
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Reply #14 - 10/15/09 at 23:40:56
 
Quote from renbutler on 10/15/09 at 23:31:11:
Quote from kamorro on 10/15/09 at 23:27:15:
According to the link, only THREE teams will be allowed SIX primetime games. I was wondering if those teams aren't determined until each week's Flex game is chosen, starting in Week 11?


Correct. It is not predetermined. It's always a fluid situation. Once three teams are scheduled for a definite sixth primetime game, no other team can be scheduled for a sixth primetime game.

 
Thank you for clarifying.
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Reply #15 - 10/15/09 at 23:46:38
 
Quote from renbutler on 10/15/09 at 23:20:20:
I think we learned a couple years ago that blowouts are no fun even if one of the teams is chasing some sort of dubious "history."

 
CBS would beg to differ with you.  In week 16 of the 2007 season, they made New England/Miami their primary doubleheader game (I think it went to about 70% of the country) even though that matchup had blowout written all over it.  If the Colts stay undefeated late into the season and they are gung ho about chasing 16-0 like the Patriots did (remember the year the Colts were undefeated into December and they publicly stated it wasn't the biggest priority of theirs), CBS will start riding them as hard as they can.
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Reply #16 - 10/16/09 at 00:27:00
 
Quote from renbutler on 10/15/09 at 23:31:11:
Quote from kamorro on 10/15/09 at 23:27:15:
According to the link, only THREE teams will be allowed SIX primetime games. I was wondering if those teams aren't determined until each week's Flex game is chosen, starting in Week 11?


Correct. It is not predetermined. It's always a fluid situation. Once three teams are scheduled for a definite sixth primetime game, no other team can be scheduled for a sixth primetime game.

 
And if a given team has 6 games under the lights, one of them must be a NFLN game, IIRC.
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Reply #17 - 10/16/09 at 00:31:21
 
Quote from DK073 on 10/15/09 at 23:46:38:
CBS would beg to differ with you.  In week 16 of the 2007 season, they made New England/Miami their primary doubleheader game (I think it went to about 70% of the country) even though that matchup had blowout written all over it.  If the Colts stay undefeated late into the season and they are gung ho about chasing 16-0 like the Patriots did (remember the year the Colts were undefeated into December and they publicly stated it wasn't the biggest priority of theirs), CBS will start riding them as hard as they can.

 
Of course they would, but I think that would be a mistake. It was then, and it would be now.
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Reply #18 - 10/16/09 at 00:43:23
 
Quote from renbutler on 10/16/09 at 00:31:21:
Quote from DK073 on 10/15/09 at 23:46:38:
CBS would beg to differ with you.  In week 16 of the 2007 season, they made New England/Miami their primary doubleheader game (I think it went to about 70% of the country) even though that matchup had blowout written all over it.  If the Colts stay undefeated late into the season and they are gung ho about chasing 16-0 like the Patriots did (remember the year the Colts were undefeated into December and they publicly stated it wasn't the biggest priority of theirs), CBS will start riding them as hard as they can.


Of course they would, but I think that would be a mistake. It was then, and it would be now.

 
A lot of people watch football that don't know the difference between a good matchup and a bad one.  As usual, I hate to invoke the casual fan argument here, but a 14-0 Patriots team has more sex appeal than most other teams and has the added bonus that you can flex away from them to a better game if the situation warrants.  That week in question, CBS didn't have much to work with either.  The next 2 best games on their schedule were Browns/Bengals and Colts/Texans, so there wasn't that much else really worth showing to a large audience.
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Reply #19 - 10/16/09 at 00:47:15
 
I wasn't talking about just that one week. It happened a lot that season.
 
I even find Colts blowouts boring. I really didn't pay attention to the second half at Tennessee last Sunday. And I tend to watch as much pro football as humanly possible.
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Reply #20 - 10/16/09 at 01:25:42
 
Quote from jdelachjr2002 on 10/15/09 at 20:45:03:
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Week 13: TEN-IND


A waste of a protect if you ask me. No way on earth should NBC want anything more to do with the currently 0-5 (soon to be 0-6 or worse) Titans.

 
Week 13 has NE at Mia and a Fox Doubleheader.
The CBS games are
Ten at Ind
Hou at Jax
Den at KC
Oak at Pit
SD at Cle
 
So CBS didn't have much of a choice that weekend.
 
With FOX protecting Dall/NYG that leaves PHI at ATL as the most likely choice with also MIN at ARZ or NO at Wsh as also game that can be flexed.
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Reply #21 - 10/16/09 at 01:40:13
 
Quote from Suki on 10/16/09 at 01:25:42:
Quote from jdelachjr2002 on 10/15/09 at 20:45:03:
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Week 13: TEN-IND


A waste of a protect if you ask me. No way on earth should NBC want anything more to do with the currently 0-5 (soon to be 0-6 or worse) Titans.


Week 13 has NE at Mia and a Fox Doubleheader.
The CBS games are
Ten at Ind
Hou at Jax
Den at KC
Oak at Pit
SD at Cle

So CBS didn't have much of a choice that weekend.

With FOX protecting Dall/NYG that leaves PHI at ATL as the most likely choice with also MIN at ARZ or NO at Wsh as also game that can be flexed.

 
The theory I had (which may or may not have been CBS's thinking).. their flex protects basically boiled down to picking a week 12 game or a week 13 game.  Their best option in week 12 is IND/HOU, an improvement, but not necessarily by much.  The difference is that CBS likely would get a better trade back in week 12 where PIT/BAL is the Sunday Night game and likely to stay there rather than in week 13 where they would get NE/MIA in return for what would obviously be a better game.  Obviously if NE/MIA does go to CBS, there's no guarantee CBS would lose a game, but why not use a protection there if week 12 is just as bad as week 13.
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Reply #22 - 10/16/09 at 10:46:55
 
Quote from renbutler on 10/16/09 at 00:47:15:
I wasn't talking about just that one week. It happened a lot that season.

I even find Colts blowouts boring. I really didn't pay attention to the second half at Tennessee last Sunday. And I tend to watch as much pro football as humanly possible.

 
agreed.  I would much rather watch a battle between two contending teams than watch an undefeated team blow out a bad opponent. That Patriots-Bills Sunday Night dud comes to mind.  
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Reply #23 - 10/16/09 at 10:50:20
 
Fox surprised me by not protecting the Bears in week 15.  NBC will probaly jump at the chance to put one of their favorite teams on yet again.
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Reply #24 - 10/16/09 at 11:50:10
 
FOX must have some confidence in the Skins and Cowboys.  I know NBC usually loves to snag the Cowboys, but I can't imagine them dropping a strong (teams and markets) Eagles/Bears matchup for Skins/Cowboys given the state of the Skins and Cowboys now.  What's even weirder is that WAS/DAL has to be a 1 pm game that week and FOX has much bigger matchups available in that slot with ATL/NYG and to a lesser extent SF/GB.  That WAS/DAL game will probably have its lowest geographic coverage since (I'm guessing) 2004.
 
It seemed unlikely before the season, but I think there is a strong likelihood that NBC dumps the Cowboys/Skins matchup Week 16.  DEN/PHI looks like a potentially excellent matchup that NBC can snag.
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